It does not increase damage if you can already pen that armor without IFHE. The disadvantages of concentrating the ship's main guns on the bow were compensated by the favorable turret traverse angles. They have fairly strong secondaries. Lyon is hysterical. They fire a bit slower than the 100mm guns (about 4.5 seconds, IIRC) but they are much stronger. Being T9 you face less things you can overpen, having 4 more guns allow for more hits, armor is about the same to me, so still good, and there are secondaries that can hit all around the ship. Russian destroyersare an oddity; they frequently feel as if they have the powerful, fast-firing guns of their American counterparts mounted in the arduously slow-turning turrets of the Japanese destroyer line. Tier 5: Bretagne is ok. I prefer main gun accuracy over secondary range, especially with these inconsistent French BBs. FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… With Tier 5 I generally agree, though I'd like to get past my Orion and play the Iron Duke for a while to have another Tier 5 battleship against which to compare her (not that there is that much difference between the Orion and the Duke in the first place, but their matchmaking is different and that will alter perceptions). I don't straight up brawl with her as much as I do German BBs, but I do play her as a lancer much like Richelieu; charge in, then use speed to whip around and kite, staying near max range of secondaries and angled away from the enemy while lighting them up with 12-gun salvoes every 25 seconds or so. With IFHE, they can pen up to 27.5mm armor. The speed, agility, and ability to flank and catch the enemy team in a cross fire cannot be understated. Frankly, Republique doesn't see enough ships with enough 25mm plating to make the opportunity cost of IFHE worth it. The Alsace is just a better Richelieu but with less of the quark. But if you can stay angled you'll shrug off a lot of potential damage despite her low HP and her guns will decimate same-tier BBs or any cruiser. The first battleship-dreadnought built in France. On Republique, putting 4 points into IFHE is a minor improvement at best, more likely a sidegrade given the loss of fire damage potential vs very little additional pen damage, to secondary  effectiveness with a far more significant opportunity cost (EM is more important due to main gun layout, and BFT is more noticeable due to overall slower-firing secondaries plus the harder-hitting 127mm guns. Overall, which would you say was your favorite ship you tried out? Awesome! AFT is nice though in terms of boosting AA as well. I've just started on Richelieu. Thanks for sharing your experiences @poeticmotion. There are two different answers to this question. Normandie was a French battleship under construction before and during World War I. Developer Diaries describe World of Warships game design in detail and it is all about our passion. With Richelieu, I got 3 citadels on an FDG at 18 km in two consecutive salvos. She is a BEAST. If you don't know how to effectively angle, learn or you're not going to enjoy them. In this update, the French Navy makes its debut, with the French Cruisers leading the way and the French Battleships appearing in early access. A flotilla of Italian Warships is headed to World of Warships: Legends in the new Veni, Vidi, Vici update. Sadly, not everyone has time and money for that. Had a game in her with 400 secondary hits earlier. poeticmotion, March 6, 2018 in French Battleships. But add IFHE, and your 100mm secondaries pen almost all parts of all DDs, large portions of cruisers (except for their primary armor belts) and BB superstructures. I read another thread about it, and although costly, it might be worth it, especially for Alsace's two calibers of secondaries. Tier 8: Richelieu is VERY fun, but quirky. Tier 9: Alsace is the jewel of the line and my new favorite tier 9 BB. The Republic is going to bring the quark back, but I can imagine once you work with the quark, she will work with you, with the 127mm secondaries or higher it can do more than just fires, and with 430mm guns can overmatch 27mm armor, and with the games I played with her in the Space Battles, I don't seem to get nearly as many overpens on broadsides. The best solution would be simply testing all the warships of each nation. Not only do you give up a bit of fire chance, but it takes up 4 skill points you can use elsewhere. Filter by flair. “When it all comes together around two competent teams working together, World of Warships is a glorious pre-World War 2 admiralty fantasy come to life.” 8.3/10 – IGN “Its mix of ponderous warships and huge guns—the biggest guns ever fired in anger by mankind—is beautiful, polished, and a joy to play.” 80/100 – PCGamer @HazeGrayUnderway did some systematic testing in a training room for some less anecdotal data, shown in quote below: In training room tests, I've timed my Alsace Secondaries to fire for 2 minutes each on FDG, Alsace, Missouri, Izumo, Lion targets. Thats ridiculously low for 494 hits. She may be workable for you; I admit four games is not enough to get a good feel for a ship. PSA/Information She's a bit too squishy for clan battles and such; she's not built to take focus fire even though she's tougher than you'd expect when angled well. FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… Broadside CAs, BBs, CVs, it does not matter. Tier 7 is OP. World of Warships: Legends is a free-to-play naval action MMO game where you take command of history's most iconic warships, all of which are recreated in accurate detail and recruit legendary commanders, upgrade your vessels and stake your claim to naval supremacy with or against players around the world. I do like Alsace. Wargaming has announced the first major update since their August release for World of Warships: Legends. Gameplay review of the French Battleship Lyon and a look at strategy for the map Fault Line in World of Warships Legends (WoWs Legends) available on PS4 and XBOX1. i am only at richelieu and find the gun to be quite accurate. She's wicked fast, has 12 undersized but accurate main guns (dispersion gets wonky near max range but from 11-13 km in they're deadly), her secondaries will merrily light fires and add damage, and her secondaries have more 360-degree coverage than Richelieu. She can get wrecked by any BB she’ll meet from the stern. But, the only benefit of IFHE is the ability to pen armor thicker than you would otherwise be able to. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/game-updates/soviet-battleships-review With most of her stats coming in fairly average, the part that makes Richelieu good is in how she’s played. World of Warships: Legends have announced their first major update following their August Release featuring a new nation with new ships, commanders, and play-styles. Then there’s the accuracy issue. The first battleship-dreadnought built in France. She handles like a drunk pig; slow and waddling, and her turrets take all day to turn, but once again, this is not uncommon at tier 5. Created Sep 12, 2018. I'm on the Normadie and I have been shooting HE; not because I want to be an HE spammer, but because I can't citadel with AP. My experience so far in this ship is very limited and is entirely in co-op; I played her once (I think) just before I went on holiday and that was my first game after unlocking her, and then a few times after coming back from holiday and I'm so rusty my tactical performance is awful and I can no longer shoot straight. I don't straight up brawl with her as much as I do German BBs, but I do play her as a lancer much like Richelieu; charge in, then use speed to whip around and kite, staying near max range of secondaries and angled away from the enemy while lighting them up with 12-gun salvoes every 25 seconds or so. Why? LOL  The hull upgrade will further enhance the AA rating too. In World of Warships, this build may be considered as the most versatile and can be used for any Battleship of any tier. IronDuke has HE, Kongo great range, NY has range and good pen, Konig has great AP and accuracy, Cesare is..Cesare...Bretagne has nothing..poor accuracy, poor shell performance, poor range and poor speed...just an overall dog. The bigger difference is she has 8x2 127mm secondaries in place of the Alsace's 100mm secondaries. Tier 10: I haven't played Republique but from everything I've seen in-game, plus heard from a couple friends who have her, I'm in no rush. 11.7k. It probably doubled my overall secondary damage. The ship was equipped with 380 mm guns, had a high speed, strong armor and very good torpedo protection. 7 second reload. I originally stated I wasn't in a rush to get Republique if I even bothered with her at all. I find getting citadel hits with the Lyon is pretty easy against both cruisers and BBs. However, even with her the secondaries don’t do much damage. But omg she's op in random battles. But Ialso dealt 42k damage from the fires those secondary hits set. And aside from 25mm common plate, there is nothing the 127mm guns can pen with IFHE that she wouldn't otherwise be able to without it. I rushed to Alsace as I played her on test server and loved her, but I'm in no rush to get Republique. A series of French battleships built in response to the appearance of British "superdreadnoughts". Whut? Its tempting to bow-tank with all your main guns mounted on the bow, but I still recommend angling as you have a tendency to lose turrets when bow-on and with two turrets that cripples your DPS. Best Battleship: Richelieu (France) See Richelieu stats and more here. I play her as a lancer; move in at an angle, then time a turn when you have opportunity to minimize citadel exposure and pull back out, firing over shoulder while letting your 10+ km secondaries get in on the action. So, not going to do 'full reviews' like I did of the British BBs because lazy, but having played up through Alsace, here'smy quick impressions of the French BB line so far: Standard review disclaimer by me: I am an average to a bit above average player who plays mostly solo, so this is from that perspective. TL;DR: On Alsace, putting 4 points into IFHE is a drastic improvement to secondary effectiveness with only a minor opportunity cost (since EM is comparatively less important than it is for Republique.) Her disadvantages included weak torpedo protection. Her main turrets were placed in the fore end thus making any aft firing scenarios impossible. So you'll set lots of fires, but you won't do direct damage with them. Their defining feature has to be quadruple-gun turrets! The 127mm guns have roughly the same pen without IFHE, 21.16mm armor, as the Alsace 100mm with IFHE. Might not be what you were aiming at but you’ll hit it ? But firing SIXTEEN main guns downrange means you're going to get hits even with weird dispersion. Curiously, this pun has yet to be considered awful enough to be reported. Shatters and overpens aplenty. The addition of the fourth main gun turret allowed the ship to deliver a unique, 16-gun broadside salvo. I free-XPed out of her after four games, which is very rare for me. Also, contrary to what I've seen people say. A series of French battleships built in response to the appearance of British "superdreadnoughts". Tier 6 is good. She looks potentially fun but has a very high skill floor and will likely require a very good player with the right playstyle to consistently do well in her. Alsace 100mm 2ndary pen without IFHE: can pen up to 16.66mm armor. I am also trying too hard to erase destroyers and other fast, hard-to-hit threats, and that means my barrels are often unloaded when I should have them ready for bigger, slower ships. This update adds the French Navy to the game. ! The Lyon makes it easy with sixteen (that’s right 16) rifles. Tier 10: I haven't played Republique but from everything I've seen in-game, plus heard from a couple friends who have her, I'm in no rush. Welcome Guest. If completed, she would have been the first ship in the world to carry its main armament in Quadruple-gun turrets. The majority of outgoing fire is your 100mm secondaries. These battleships can deliver intense salvos on their unfortunate enemies! These ships were developed directly from the ships of the preceding class but carried 340 mm guns arranged under a more rational scheme. Someone said something like “quantity has a quality all its own.”  Plus Tier 7 is the sweet spot in current matchmaking. The KGV eliminates the need to aim correctly with that stupid fire-starting HE. She looks potentially fun but has a very high skill floor and will likely require a very good player with the right playstyle to consistently do well in her. Below you will find a short description of all warship types. Also, contrary to what I've seen people say, no ffs they're not HE spammers like British BBs were; use AP most of the time like your IJN, USN, and German BBs. 11 sec reload). She isn't very stealthy (although better than some BBs) but she has great speed to flex around the map, and she has low hp but if angled correctly can be very survivable. A question:  Do you use IFHE on your Alsace & République? Alternatively, you could take BFT as an alternative to Super and that may even be superior if you don't often survive long enough for the extra heal, but I *hate* dying late game when that extra heal could have saved me. She's very quirky and she wont' work well for spray-and-pray players, but her secondaries and her very powerful and fast-loading main guns make her awesome. But the Normandie is awful at setting fires, too. But once you get there, wheeee! I was doing some digging the other day and found out some interesting stuff about Battleship guns and their actual reload times. Her guns are punchy af and very accurate, secondaries put out a lot of fire but suffer from her tier  (since manual control of secondaries skill is only 15% improvement at tier t5). She combines the mid-range accuracy of USN BBs (although with lower alpha strike potential due to small guns) with the secondary-range devastation of a Kurfurst or Friedrich. A high-speed battlecruiser designed to counter German heavy cruisers. All of the French BBs seem to have wonky dispersion and shell hits are unpredictable. For players who like speed and ability to move around map, appreciate a ship that can brawl or mid-range fight with equal aplomb, and can maximize their armor angles and stay alive to kick [edited], this is a fantastic line. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships: Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of history's greatest warships! I don't have the hull upgrade yet (do have firing range & speed) as I'm being tight with my 120 million credits and 408,000 free XP. Once I got my 18th capt point, I added IFHE and tripled my average pen damage while only cutting fire damage by about a third. With a secondary build she is the best ship I've seen at kiting; her secondaries are mounted in back and her firing arcs are very wide for good "over the shoulder" shots. Sections of this page ... Jean Bart, a tier VII French Premium battleship. However, that is where the similarities end; Russian destroyers excel at long- to m… On 4/14/2018 at 5:23 PM, HMCS_Moncton said: not normandie because that ship is a hot mess. World of Warships: Legends brings iconic warships and history’s greatest commanders to Xbox One and PlayStation 4 in the ultimate naval action MMO! Cruiser players will love them; they play like oversized cruisers. Glimpse behind the scenes at the new battleship line! Please Login or Register. Added in Update 0.7.2, French battleships start at low tier with traditional dreadnought-style designs, but shift to designs more akin to battlecruisers at higher tiers. This is of course a limited sample size, and is affected by my playstyle (which is generally fairly aggressive leading to occasional overreaches and a low survival rate.) FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… With my 19-point Alsace Captain, I run PT, PM, Adrenaline Rush, Super (extra heal and speed boost), AFT, Manual Secondaries, IFHE. This is not a suggestion thread BTW . She's the only T5 BB that I can't make work. Welcome to the largest subreddit dedicated to the Naval Action game World of Warships: Legends! Tier 7-9 are the good part of this line. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. Alsace has very fast-firing (about a 3-second reload) 100mm secondaries backing up 3x3 152mm secondaries that fire more slowly (approx. French Destroyers exit early access, and now there’s a new system for you to manage and upgrade […] I'm honestly expecting a nerf to her; Alsace makes me look like a much better BB player than I am. Its really off putting going from pretty standard AP, to fast super high pen AP that overpens everything, but once I got used to it I was consistently getting high damage, but still frustrating to play for me because I hate seeing overpen broadsides at all distances, and sub 10k broadside BBs, but still, was doing very well and I went from hating it to loving it very quickly. In 2 minutes: WITHOUT IFHE:  BB targets survived with around 27k-32k HP remaining. Experience epic naval action in World of Warships Legends, a global multiplayer free-to-play online game in which you can master the seas on the decks of historys greatest warships Recruit Legendary Commanders, upgrade your vessels, and stake your claim to naval domination alongside and against players from around the world. Also, while I did consult numbers and stats, my reviews are primarily based on the feel of the ship and my performance in her. French Destroyers exit early access, and now there’s a new system for you to manage and upgrade […] The first French battleship design with the main battery guns placed in three quadruple gun turrets. And yet I’ve dumped a full salvo into a broadside cruiser at 8km without a citadel. The Tier VI Lyon even carries four quadruple turrets for a … Plus I kept the Normandie but sold the Bretagne. Tier 7: Lyon is definitely not OP, but she's a lot of fun and certainly competitive. They are very fast for their size, and from Tier VIII onward they get access to the Engine Boost () consumable, further addin… FREQUENT UPDATES New content in the form of ships… I went with an AA build as I don't feel shell dispersion is all that bad especially when she has 16 guns. At the Lyon currently, a great ship with surprisingly good AA. Tier 5 is annoying. IJN: Mikasa's 305 mm/40 41st Year Type: 1 round per minute or 60 sec reload* Kawachi's 305 mm/45 41st Year Type: 2 rounds per minute or 30 sec reload Ishizuchi's 305 mm/45 Mk10: ~1.5 rounds per … They don't matter anyway, it takes a few games to grind through a tier 3 or 4 and honestly, nothing can ever beat Orion. This is with a 16-point captain, so before I had BFT, but with manual secondaries, adrenaline rush, and AFT. Oh, I should mention, French BBs are the most romantic ships, while the French CAs try to play hard to get, the BBs like to get up close and sneak in a kiss (ram), although you may get in trouble for kissing those underage Anime ships, you have to do it, For FRANCE!!! Battleships in World of Warships are what you play when you don't understand anything about actual naval warfare, and think they are the only type of ship ever used (This is a joke, but it's kinda true.) In the beginning phase of the game it is hard to decide which warship types to develop. World of Warships is a free-to-play naval warfare-themed massively multiplayer online game produced and published by Wargaming, following the earlier games World of Tanks and World of Warplanes.Players can battle others at random or play cooperative battle types against bots or an advanced player versus environment (PvE) battle mode. The new campaign for the update features a battleship to bolster the Italian nation as well, the elegant Roma. With 16 shells per salvo, you’re going to hit something where it hurts. I had 494 secondary hits in a game the other day and only 12k in direct damage from that. The ship carried twelve 305 mm main guns and powerful secondary guns. V NORMANDIE. As far as IFHE, yes on Alsace, no on Republique. Français. This was a match where I ended up only engaging BBs (which is unusual for me), but still got 35k direct damage plus 55k fire damage from my secondaries. (Edit as of 4/3: I bought Republique about a week ago after trying her on test server and I was wrong. Please make sure to read the Rules before participating. It's a bit too RNG-dependent to count on setting fires against BBs with your 100mm secondaries and they won't ever pen anything on a BB, but it's a nice bonus. The construction of such turrets was driven by the desire to achieve maximum broadside firepower given the ship's limited size. Wargaming has kicked off its Last Battleship campaign today, which adds both the French Jean Bart and Japanese Yamato battleships to the game for the first time. As such, kiting in this ship is a blast, especially since her turrets do have such strong firing arcs to the rear despite being concentrated in bow. One regards the grind to the top tier battleship, and the other answer is in regard to the ship that is most competitively viable In terms of grinding, the French line would be the easiest. By dropping IFHE, I can run Super AND BFT at the same time, giving me a 10% boost to my 2ndary firepower without losing Super. Though speaking of tier X Battleships this build is particularly good for Yamato ( Imperial Japanese Navy ), Montana ( US Navy ), République and Bourgogne ( French Navy ), Thunderer ( Royal Navy ). overall  a pretty good bote. Tier 9: Alsace is the jewel of the line and my new favorite tier 9 BB. The problem with German BBs in high tiers is that with the campy meta, its hard to do consistently well since you really have to get in close to maximize their DPM. I run the secondary upgrade in the 500k credit upgrade slot, but for the 3-million credit upgrade slot I use the upgrade for main gun reload speed, as I find it gives me more value overall to shave time off my main gun reload as I use those all game whereas I am not *always* in secondary range (although I try to be, because brawler Alsace is best Alsace. I usually love fast BBs but her turret firing arcs were punitive and I couldn't seem to mitigate damage well enough to compensate for her low hp. She's absolutely amazing. She shares the 3x3 152mm secondaries of Alsace, although 2 in front/1 in rear whereas Alsace is 1 in front/2 in rear. The new campaign for the update features a battleship to bolster the Italian nation as well, the elegant Roma. Note: I did not play tier 3 or 4 as i got Bretagne from mission. And don’t neglect those pesky DDs or smoking cruisers. Great review, poetic motion. Alsace 100mm 2ndary pen with IFHE: can pen up to 21.66mm armor. Share your naval adventures with friends and turn the tide! My 19-point Republique captain build: PT, Expert Marksman, Adrenaline Rush, Super, BFT, AFT, Manual Secondaries. )Republique: Republique's secondary layout is a bit different. So even in those games where no one on your team will push and you can't get away with closing in to knife range, you're still able to deal significant damage. Your mileage may vary depending on your playstyle and skill level. I'm at T9 near to the T10 and yea, I'm enjoying the French, they are great with my aggressive play-style. English (USA) Deutsch. So for Alsace, IFHE is a no-brainer in a brawler build (and there are several viable builds for Alsace, but given my playstyle and the strengths of the ship, I strongly prefer a brawler build. :). I need to replay those games while we still have the current patch, look at the ribbons, and see exactly what happened to those shells when I'm NOT concentrating on fighting for my life. With these ships a hoot, I 'm at T9 near to Richelieu! Look like a much better BB player than I am of concentrating the ship carried twelve 305 main. Which is very rare for me and from tier 7: Lyon is definitely not OP but. 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