The resulting milk-coffee creation was horrible. In this version, you would put a WHOLE BUNCH of coffee grounds in COLD COLD milk, leave it in the fridge overnight, then filter out the coffee grounds. Some person even posted about their dream of James having an affair with their boss (I want to bleach my eyes). 8. On the right is microfoam that tastes sweet and creamy. Then remove the plunger component of the press and pour a bit of this water into your press and swirl it around to: Warm up the glass so the water temperature doesn’t drop when you start making espresso Remove the lid of the French press and pour the coconut milk over the tea. In a cup, half french press coffee, half cold brew + sugar. /r/ Coffee is a place to discuss any and all things coffee. Add a little sugar and make sure you don't boil the milk.. We, as a whole agree, this a horrible idea. ...As a side note: I have heard of people putting warm milk (not boiling) in a clean french press (no coffee) and pumping the plunger up and down to create frothed milk for lattes etc... http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-guide_files/foam.jpg, On the left is soapy gross bubbles that taste like nothing. Helpful 5 Not Helpful 2. The plastic look is cheaper than the stainless-steel look, but on closer inspection, you’ll find the BPA-free plastic to actually be of a great quality like the Bodum travel French press. Using milk instead of water, helps with the strongness and makes taste even better! It sounds like what you're really wanting is a higher milk to coffee ratio, and that's something you can do better with espresso or mokapot.... Make yourself a super strong coffee that can have lots of milk added. The best milk to use is oat milk, preferably the most neutral tasting oat milk. Just put your coarse ground coffee and water in the French press and leave it … This isn’t the case in a French press, so we can experiment. Some specialty coffees (especially beans that were roasted slightly too sour or slightly too bitter) are often enhanced by oat milk because it of this as neutralises their extremities. Always remember that the best coffee is the coffee you like, and that counts for everything really. Try doing French press with 140-160F water, and let us know how nasty it tastes. GenerallyOdd krisprince. 2 1/2 cups whole milk or water; 8 2/3 cups all-purpose flour, plus flour for the work surface; 1 1/2 tablespoons active dry yeast; 1/2 cup honey or sugar 'Discussion forum for members of the community, regarding videos or other things created by James'. Few people have full-blown espresso machines at home, and most of us don't keep a steam wand around, either. In either case, so say we all. Brewing coffee with milk instead of water - posted in Public House: I have been looking around but I am not finding too much info on this. Don't let other people speculate as to what you will find tasty, because they aren't you, and experimenting is fun and often leads to unexpected surprises. Frothy Matcha Latte (Made in a French Press) 1 1/2 teaspoons of matcha powder (I used Mizuba Tea Co.) 1 tablespoon of hot water 1 cup of whole milk (or milk alternative) What if you bloomed the coffee as normal then swapped the water for milk (at around 60-65 degrees). I mean, I'm not going to rush to do it but I am legit curious. I let it steep for 4 minutes, and plunged normally. Maybe start with supermarket beans for your first trials so not to waste great coffee before checking something works first, but don't listen to those who say that trying out a method that hasn't been featured in a dozen YouTube videos with a low saturated colour filter and a slow tempo jazz soundtrack isn't a proper coffee lover's technique. To properly extract coffee in a French press, you need water just off the boil (i.e. The bloom would extract most of the coffee, probably better with a darker roast. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Users can vary the amount of time that coffee grounds are steeped, the type and size of grounds used, the temperature of the water… So try it, brew coffee with milk in the french press and see how you like it. I mean, yes, but it’s just going to taste like milky coffee and frankly, it’s a bit of a waste because you’re going to get the cooked milk taste (like in the espresso affagato video) when you heat the milk hot enough to brew coffee. Use room temperature or cold water instead of hot water, and extend the brew time from four minutes to 12 to 18 hours. French press is very forgiving, so you can use 1:12 for a very strong brew and even go down to 1:15 or 1:17 for a lighter brew. Not a fan of the microwaved stuff. Cinnamon, star anise, and vanilla beans are a great … I've made it this way before. The above methods are sometimes used with hot milk instead of water. Milk irreversibly changes when it gets to about 70C or above, and starts to taste very bad. The problem with milk is that it will curdle at 180°F. Try using the French press to froth milk to be used in other recipes. Ingredients. I am definitely someone who considers myself at the coffee purist of the spectrum, and definitely prefer to not pollute or distract my 'pure' coffee with extras like sugar or syrups and will 90+% of the time have it without milk. Anyways i just want to make sure if it would work or not because i am not a coffee expert. Give the French Press a quick swirl, and then wait 30 seconds. Here‘s another one from them using the French Press: https://youtu.be/WG_sJRSH2t4. Peet's tip: When hot water meets coffee grounds, CO2 escapes and expands, creating a "bloom." If you like your coffee with milk, fill a clean French press about one-third of the way with warm milk. Then heat 2-3x that volume of milk to ~160°F and mix the two. Try adding a hint of ground nutmeg for extra spice. This sounds absolutely horrible. Don't listen to the people here dismissing you on the spot, or even those suggesting you aren't interested in sophisticated coffee, you can brew specialty coffee with milk - it just sounds sacrilegious to a artisan coffee type of person at first because it sounds like a cardinal coffee sin. Bodum French Press, 0.35 Liters (12 Ounces) This is the smallest French press that Bodum offers. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Set your timer for four minutes and pour in just enough water to saturate the grounds. Wasn't thinking of it. The French Press doesn’t heat water up automatically like drip coffee makers do, so you need to boil water in a kettle first. In any situation you'd probably be way better off by just making a stronger (water) brew in the first place, and then adding a lot of milk. You don't want to boil the milk, as it breaks at 83 °C (181 °F), 2) Milk is not good for extracting coffee to begin with. To Make the Coffee: Simply fill the bottom portion with cold water.Fill the metal filter area in the middle with finely ground coffee and screw the pieces together. The most important thing to remember is not to heat up the milk hotter than 70°C / 160°F, otherwise it‘ll break and taste burnt. IME, milk scalds around 165°F, so I'd expect milk alone heated to boiling to taste awful. Some of my friends tried and they said its taste great. Just add more warm milk later. Also there are no minerals to extract the coffee solubles. In a pour over, a finer grind can impede water flow. The question should really be: Would using milk instead of water ruin/break your French press? It's starting to look a lot like milk now! I don't mean I had milk in my coffee. Other than that, the grind size and technique are the same. Bring the coconut milk to a simmer at the same time as the water. I hear you can make a mean french press with orange juice. There is a but coming though, and that is to say 'but' not with dairy milk. That recipe you described is otherwise a Cafe au Lait. Blend the water and almonds together until the almonds are well-processed, about 1½ minutes. Cinnamon is commonly used in America. Thanks for trying this brave experiment :-). In the video above, the 1:12 ratio yields a very strong wake-up call brew, and 1:15 yields a pleasant brew that you will enjoy sipping. This will take some effort and patience, but go slowly; liquid may gush out if you plunge too hard or fast. Edit: as a tip for OP, the r/Coffee subreddit might have been a better place for that question, since here most people are into specialty coffee only. Not sure if you mean r/coffee or the cows you represent. The biggest advantage the French Press has to offer is that it allows users to make a cup of coffee according to their own individual taste. What to Expect from a French Press. The latter two are how I like to enjoy cold brew. As an experiment, instead of using water, I heated milk to a boil, then put it in the french press with the normal amount of coffee grinds. 3 replies 0. Cover again and let steep for 4-5 minutes. Pour warm milk into the press, then add any spices you like. What would happen if you kept it under the burning point, though? You need a steam wand of some description to make the one on the right. Here‘s one doing a pour over with milk at 140°F / 60°C: https://youtu.be/zKSNqaIlDL4. And in fact, people have had that idea of brewing with milk and tried it. Milk works differently to water in this brewing process because it contains fat. BUT! You are basically just adding a milky texture to the drink and a slight sweetness. While I don't know exactly what you were hoping for, I suspect that will be much closer to what you imagined. (110 grams, or twice the weight of the coffee). Cookies help us deliver our Services. The quality of coffee you brew will significantly increase with a few additional tools. THAT SAID, please feel free to experiment with it. It should also be noted that grind size does matter: a Moka pot, for example, requires a fine grind, while a French press uses a coarser grind. Chocolate shavings add a gourmet touch. I would possibly consider leaving the grounds suspended in 1% milk (I think 2 or 3% would be too high in milk fat to properly infuse) and leave it overnight. So, just try it and see for yourself. We do live in a world where people drink Nescafe and Maxwell House, so the bar is very low for some people. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. You could, but you'd run into a number of problems :). I could see this possibly working IF you did it as cold brew. Plunging milk in a bodum gives you at beast the gross soapy mess on the left. Pour into French Press, cover and depress plunger verrry slowly. Nope you wont want to do that. If it doesn‘t work well, you could try a different way: brew a stronger french press with only half the amount of water, then top the coffee up with milk in the cup. Keep in mind that part of the listed volume will be taken up by the ground coffee, so the amount of liquid coffee that you get … Blend on high for one to two minutes. I was thinking of using either a french press or my vacuum brewer (Bodom Santos). It's hilarious, but yes, like you said, it's straying from the original intent of the sub. Drain and rinse, then add to high speed blender with 3 cups water, sea salt and sweetener. Never mind steeping coffee in nasty tasting milk. For French press brewing, that's 4 ounces of ground coffee to 32 ounces of water. This doesn't allow you to get everything out of the coffee that you might like to. Baratza Encore coffee grinder $139 So I used milk instead of water today in my french press. Why not? It certainly is unusual and I wouldn’t do it myself, but OP isn‘t an expert and probably isn‘t looking for that perfect specialty coffee with notes of blueberries and blood orange. If it doesn‘t work well, you could try a different way: brew a stronger french press with only half the amount of water, then top the coffee up with milk in the cup. This was what led me to experiment trying to brew specialty coffee just with oat milk, literally by putting ground coffee and oat milk in a microwaveable container, microwaving for 2-3 minutes, and then straining through a fine metal mesh. near 100C) to create a slurry temperature of around 90-94C. Thanks! Instead, pile shredded veg into the canister of your French press, press down firmly, and tip so that the excess liquid drains out of the press' spout. I love specialty light roast but you can definitely brew it with milk. People seem to be a bit harsh here. The first coffee press, which may have been made in France, was the modern coffee press in its rudimentary form—a metal or cheesecloth screen fitted to a rod that users would press into a pot of hot water and coffee grounds. For most methods you are aiming for a temperature of around 200°F for a good extraction. For me coffee tastes better with milk than water so i thought why not just do it with milk directly. ... A cafetière, or French press, is a tall, narrow cylinder with a plunger that includes a metal or nylon fine mesh filter. Place the coffee pot on the stove and heat until the water boils up into the top chamber and it fills up. You could french press coffee using pepsi if you wanted. What I have found is that those who have tried it are using automatic drip coffee makers, and complain that the milk burns. Go check out r/coffee my dude. In my opinion - and it's controversial on the internet - oat milk is the milk that pairs well with specialty coffee as (providing it hasn't been flavoured) it's lack of a distinct flavour means you don't mess with the flavour profile of the coffee. Milk has fat in it which pulls out the hydrophobic compounds of the coffee(the oils) a lot more quickly than water does. That's simply not hot enough to extract the flavors of your coffee... And the drink will pretty much be cold by the time you get to drink it. Goodness. Because of this, we usually use a coarser grind to slow extraction and avoid over-extraction. This is a place of idol worship where a large portion of the commenting community cares less about how coffee tastes and more about mimicking a theoretical ideal. That would probably be the only way this wouldn't end up horrible as I really don't think pouring boiled milk over your grounds would create the best result. Keep on a low simmer until the tea has steeped in the French press for five minutes. I don't mean I had milk in my coffee. I'll do it. Welp, I guess I'm free next Thursday now. As people have pointed out, dairy milk will break down above 70C (160F) and if you want a decent extraction with coffee you want to be hitting at least around 85C (185F) if not higher. The French press is an immersion method of brewing, which means that the beans extract for longer than in other methods. The flavour is always good, the only issue is that - like with French press - you will get a little micro grind in the drink and some people don't like this. The French Press is widely used because you do not need fancy equipment like a long neck kettle, a supply of paper filters or any electricity to brew with it. The best filter I found was actually the Hario cold brew filter, I think it's made of some kind of plastic but the mesh is much finer than any metal filter. Coffee tastes the best this way, Yes but thats a mildly unpleasant, but not terrible decision. The coffee oils contain a lot of the bitter notes, so it can be easy to over … Which I think the answer is no. Try different milks and different methods, not just french press - though, admittedly, I think french press would offer the best result here. As an experiment, instead of using water, I heated milk to a boil, then put it in the french press with the normal amount of coffee grinds. (say, using half as much water as you normally would for twice as long), Overextracted coffee is gross and bitter. Yes you can but you need to use a percolator or french press otherwise you will have cooked milk in the tubing of a drip pot and that would be a disaster. Whether you’re craving a warm cup of milk or want to get fancy with your morning latte, infusing milk with a French press is super easy. It will add a lighter texture. Cocoa powder is traditionally used in all of Italy. Stick with water and add the milk afterwards. Two French inventors (Mayer and Delforge) patented in 1852 a forerunner of the French press. Advantages of the French Press. Enlarge Image We test French press coffee makers the same way we test standard drip machines. If you're thinking of trying this, don't. And the hot milk would get the OP's preferred milky taste. Because that's about as hot as you could get the milk before scalding it. Thanks anyways, though. Coffee is first and foremost about taste. The grounds are placed in the cylinder, and off-the-boil water is then poured into it. The french press is a full immersion brewing device with a metal mesh filter. The Kona French press is a glass carafe (extra thick borosilicate) with the protective plastic exterior shell that wraps around it. Milk tastes horrible at high temperature. Edit: as a tip for OP, the r/Coffee subreddit might have been a better place for that question, since here most people are into specialty coffee only. 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